University of Pennsylvania Panel

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2022-08-10 – University of Pennsylvania Panel

Hi everyone. Welcome to CollegeAdvisor’s webinar on a University of Pennsylvania Panel. To orient everyone with the webinar timing, we’ll start off with the presentation, then answer your questions in a live Q&A on the sidebar. You can download our slides and you can start so many your questions in the Q&A tab.

Now let’s meet our panelists.

Hey everyone. My name is Deepak. I’m a, uh, junior at Penn studying finance entrepreneurship at Wharton, and I’m also minoring in Hispanic studies. I’m originally from the Philly suburbs. Hi everyone. My name’s Hiba and I am a rising senior also at Penn. Obviously I’m studying neuroscience, that’s my major.

And then I’m minoring in fine arts, chemistry and healthcare management. Wow. So we have some high achievers over here. Unfortunately, Ryan can not join us today, but you will be seeing him in a later UPenn webinar. Um, but real quick, we just wanna do a pulse to figure out where everyone is. So where, what grade are you in?

Currently? Eighth, ninth, 10th, 11th, 12th, or other. And other can be if you’re a transfer student or if you’re taking a gap year or even incoming freshman to UPenn. And while we wait for those to roll in, uh, can y’all tell us, uh, what was your favorite co course that you have taken at UPenn yeah, I can go first for this one.

Um, so I just took a class Fall semester of my junior year. And it was called drugs brain in the mind. So since I’m a neuro major, a lot of the classes I have to take fall under that neuro category, but this one was like super different because we talked about, um, drugs and the mechanisms on how they worked.

And I’m really interested in like pharma. So it was a really good connection between like neuroscience and then also like real world application in terms of industry and business. And then also since we talked about the mechanisms and everything behind it, that kind of tied into the medicine cause I’m pre-med.

So just a lot of like good interdisciplinary connections to that class. Yeah. And then I can follow up, um, one of my favorite classes I took, um, last semester as well, actually, um, it was called like technology in venture, in the venture space or something like that. Um, but essentially it was a class where every week, um, the professor would bring in like three or four people from like the real world who are running venture funds or starting companies, or working in accelerators who just who’d recently graduated from Penn and like were out into the real world, doing entrepreneurship in their life.

Um, and as someone who’s super interested in that space and like, who doesn’t know a lot of people, um, it was really awesome. Like essentially just getting a class that like networked you with everybody in, in VC and entrepreneurship. Um, and I learned so much from like really cool people out in the world.

So, um, that was, that was probably one of my favorite. College is honestly the best place to explore interest just because there’s so many more opportunities. Um, and it’s looking like we have 1%, ninth grade, 16%, 10th grade, uh, 36%, 11th grade, 43%, 12th grade, and 3% other and y’all can control the slides.

Great. So I can kind of start off here, um, and talk a little bit more about what my application process was like. And then, um, Hey, I will follow up and, and, and explain her situation. Um, but fun fact, both of us actually went to the same high school. Um, and she was a year above me in high school. And so, uh, we were, we were pretty good friends.

And so I saw her go through this process and honestly learned a lot from like upperclassmen like her. Um, but as I was, as I was applying to college, I was super, super indecisive because I wasn’t sure, um, where. I, I wasn’t really sure what I wanted to study. I was pretty convinced that I was gonna be a doctor.

Um, my entire life. I was like, well, I’ll do pre-med in, in like high school. Or like, I’ll do like sign stuff in high school, be pre-med in college, go to med school and like, that’ll be my life. Um, but like my junior year I realized that that was kind of not the path that was super meant for me anymore. Um, I became really, really interested in entrepreneurship.

Um, and so I didn’t know how to apply to schools. Um, and I didn’t really know what to look for specifically in a college given all this indecision. So I kind of applied to too many, made a little mistake there. Um, so I would really recommend like you identify and kind of upfront what you want out of a college.

That way you can like narrow down your list pretty early. Um, and so I ended up applying to college, uh, as business to most schools, um, just because logistically that ended up making more sense. And that’s kind of how I ended up here at here at Penn studying business at Wharton. Um, and the second part of my application and not to be like a Debbie downer here was, it was pretty confusing.

Um, you’ll probably like hear from a lot of people that college applications are like a game that you just kind of like have to play to win. Um, and as someone who didn’t know, like the. Rule book or like, didn’t have a manual for applying to college. It gets really confusing at times, especially when you’re looking at selective institutions like Penn or like any of the other Ivy’s or Ivy plus institutions.

Um, and so my biggest question was like, where do I begin? How am I supposed to really condense my life into one application? How am I supposed to essentially like play this game and come out as a winner? Um, and so I like some of the things that I did were like watching one of like YouTube videos and stuff like that.

But I think that, um, if I had CollegeAdvisor, when I was applying to colleges, like it, would’ve made my life so much easier cuz you have access to like advisors such as ourselves. Um, and even being on a panel like this and, and listening to our experiences is like exactly what you guys should be doing.

So, um, you guys are all in the right spot and um, like you shouldn’t be super, super stressed cuz we’re, we’re here to help. Um, in terms of like one of the other schools I was considering, um, and, and what, why I chose Penn, uh, before like post or like before I I’d gotten all, any results back, I, I applied to six out of the eight Ivy’s listed all here with Penn included.

Um, and then after I got my, my decisions, I was deciding between Dartmouth Cornell and Penn, and ended up choosing Penn because of the business focus that it had. And I think like to caveat kind of the title slide here, um, a lot of other schools are probably better fits for you if you’re interested in business.

And so these are the ones that I was also deciding between. Um, so I was deciding between like Michigan and Stern, uh, Georgetown Carding, Bell and WashU, and so long story short, like I pick Penn because of, of Wharton specifically, and the way that it really does emphasize its interdisciplinary learning.

They have an action based curriculum, really super exciting professors, amazing post grad, um, placement, um, a really good club and extracurricular scene with like where you’re able to make real world impact. Um, they have the most concentrations out of any of the business schools. Um, and so that was really important to me because I wasn’t again sure.

What I wanted to study in business. Cause I kind of identified that pretty late. Um, something else that I really love about Wharton and Penn is that you’re able to engage in a lot of interdisciplinary studies. And so, um, back when I was a, a freshman, I was like, maybe I still wanna do this whole premed thing at, at Wharton.

You’re very capable of, of being pre-med at, in Wharton. Whereas like at a lot of these other schools, it’s a lot more difficult to do those two things at once. Um, so that’s another reason why I think Penn was a great fit for me. Um, and then lastly, finishing out like this whole little blurb here, the alumni web network is amazing.

Um, just that class that I was talking about, all, everybody who came in were more an alum. Um, if ever I have a question about like, Anything career related or like, what do I do with my life? So many people are just willing to like, get on a call with you and, and speak to you for 15 to 20 minutes and kind of like explain how they got to where they went.

Um, and, and that’s like Penn in general. And then lastly is the people I think the people at Wharton make it so, so, so exciting. Um, everybody here is super interested about very diverse. Niche things. And it’s like that diversity in, uh, interest expression thought and all that, that really come together to make that experience kind of, um, unbeatable and, and really like incomparable compared to any other Ivy or any other business school in, in my opinion, at least.

Um, and if you wanna learn a little bit more about Wharton beyond just like what I’ve talked about here today, like, feel free to follow and connect with us on Instagram at Wharton ambassadors, who are they host like information sessions and coffee chats. So you can speak one on one with like Wharton students, if you’re excited about that, um, feel free to follow the Wharton school.

And we’re an undergrad. Um, previewing Penn is like our admissions office. So it’s fully student run. Like you can DM them and ask them like intrusive questions. And like, they won’t tell admissions at all. Nobody will read that except for students. Um, and then you can also obviously follow like our, our Penn Instagram.

Um, but yeah, please, please feel free to drop any questions in the chat about business at Penn. Um, applying to colleges as a business student or anything related to that. With that I’ll kind of pass it off to Hiba. Oh my gosh. There’s still more, sorry. Um, I forgot. There’s another slide for me. Uh, why did I study finance and entrepreneurship?

Well, that’s a good question because like I said, I, I was pre-med for a long time in my life. And what I realized was that, uh, I loved creating things and I loved having a really flexible kind of career path. Um, and to me that meant like business has a solution. Um, and so decided to apply to colleges under like the finance or BBA or business track.

Um, and I, I picked finance at Wharton because, uh, finance truly is like the backbone to understanding how businesses companies, uh, succeed, what drives their growth, what drives their success, um, and understanding like how to understanding the finances of a company really makes you, um, it makes you. In a position, uh, where you’re able to be successful in, in any kind of role in a finance industry, whether it’s like more traditional things like investment banking, private equity, growth, equity, those types of things, or even just like, if you wanna be a CFO for a company or start your own company, um, it’s really important to kind of know how to drive success and, and like how to drive growth, um, for, for like how to drive growth for your company.

And you really understand that through that finance lens. Um, and then secondly, entrepreneurship is like what drew me to business in the first place that that’s kind of what I did in high school to make me interested in this entire field. It kind of continues to drive my passion for business. Um, innovation really makes the world run round.

Um, and I, I think like, no matter what I do in life, like I’ll always be somehow connected to startups, um, which is why I decided to explore entrepreneurship and finally Spanish. Um, Spanish is just something I I’ve loved all throughout high school. And so I was like, I don’t wanna drop this when I come to college.

Um, and especially in college, you’re able to really explore cultures and, and people a lot more than you could in high school. Um, And so now I’m like doing a lot of traveling through Penn where I’m visiting, um, places like Costa Rica or, um, places in, in like south south America, where I’m really able to engage with the culture and, and engage with the people that I’m visiting through this language that I’ve decided to study.

Um, and if there’s one thing that like, I think you should leave this like seminar or my little blurb, like knowing it’s not at Penn, you can, you can combine your unique passions to tailor your education for whatever you want. Um, all while being supported by literally the best professors, the best programs and like the best opportunities for you in, in the country and really in the world.

So that’s my little spiel on why Penn, you. I think now it’s. Oh, not yet. okay. We we’ll get there. We’ll get there eventually. Sorry. Yes, we’re gonna just do another quick poll. So where are you in the application process? Having started I’m researching schools, I’m working on my essays. I’m getting my application materials together, or if you’re really lucky, I’m almost done.

And I just wanted to make a point that Cornell is the best school. Um, but anyhow, while we wait for those responses to roll in, can y’all tell us what is something you wish you knew sooner about UPenn or that you think that prospective students should know about UPenn before applying.

Yeah, I can take this one first as well. I feel like already touched on a lot of this, but the interdisciplinary nature of like the college as a whole is like, fantastic. That’s one of the reasons you’ll, you’ll hear about this later, when I talk about like, why I applied here, but, um, one of the big, like drivers for my, um, like when I was looking for schools to apply to was just interdisciplinary, um, opportunities, because I knew that I like med, but I didn’t wanna just do like science and Penn offers, like not only in your courses, but also in extracurriculars, the whole like concept of how there’s so many different schools around.

So the law school, the med school, or, and obviously, and you can take classes in all of these, just being able to like immerse yourself in a different discipline is something that I wish I knew, like before, and now that I know it I’m like taking advantage of it. So it’s like pretty good. Yeah. I, I wanna kind of underscore what Hiba said.

Like the interdisciplinary is just like. I think, I think we could do a better job marketing it during our like info sessions in our tours. Um, as a tour guide, like that’s something I always try and touch on, but it’s like something that we’re never told to really touch on. Um, so if, if you ever go on a tour and don’t hear anything about that, like I promise it truly is super interdisciplinary.

If I had to like, pick a, a different thing to not repeat what she said, I think like, um, compared to like a lot of what other schools may give you, I think, uh, Penn gives you really practical knowledge and really like real world application based knowledge. Um, in my internships like this past summer and the summer before I’ve worked with like students from across plenty of, plenty of like the IB and, and 90 plus like type of schools and a lot of them I think like notice and they say like, Hey, like, you know, a lot of, a lot more like practical uses for how to do things.

And I think it it’s just a function of the way that like Penn and Wharton run their curriculum. So I think that’s another really cool thing that I, I didn’t know when I was applying yes. So it’s looking like we have 16% Haven’t started 47% are researching schools. 27% are working on their essays and 10% are getting their application materials together.

So everyone’s in a really good place and you can control the slides. Okay, perfect. Yeah. So I can dive right in, um, Deepak can also like attest to this, but my entire life have been very like game plan focus. Like I’ve had schedules like ready years in advanced, honestly, like. Exhausting at a certain point, but I’ve always been like planning everything.

Um, and my whole college application process was pretty similar. I wanted to take the best approach as possible while applying, um, some background. My parents are both immigrants, so they didn’t go through this whole process and I’m the eldest child. So I was like, if I’m gonna do this first, I’m gonna do it.

Right. So I like went in and just had everything ready. Um, so essentially, like I kind of touched on before I was debating my early decision. So I knew I wanted to apply somewhere early decision. Because obviously like you can take advantage of the way that the process works. I was between Penn and Cornell, because both of them had these like interdisciplinary, like options to study medicine, essentially like in an undergraduate lens.

And Cornell had this major called I think it was human biology, health in societies or something in one of their schools, it looked really interesting. And I was actually going to apply to Cornell up until two days before the deadlines were due. And I changed my mind last second, because my mom was like, Penn is like 40 minutes away from us.

And Cornell is like four hours away from us. So I’m gonna put in a, like my 2 cents and tell you, yeah, I know you have to like rewrite your whole essay and everything. But if you applied to Penn, it’d be really nice for me. And I was like, okay. So I like looked at Penn. I went on a tour, literally like the, like the day before, like applications were due.

It was very last minute I was there on campus. It was night. I know. So they tell you not to write about like, locust walk on your essays because it’s very generic. But I swear, I was like standing there, like on campus, it was like 8:00 PM at night. And I was like, I wanna be here. Like, this place is so nice.

It’s really close to home, everything. So like aesthetic and everything just felt right. So I was like, okay. So I went home, wrote my essay. I think my dad proofread it and that was it. And then I turned it in and then a month later I got in. So I was like, yay. But, um, essentially like very, so even though I kind of had a plan for like Cornell this entire time, I ended up picking Penn.

They had the same major type. They, it, it was called biological basis of behavior. When I was applying now, they changed it to neuroscience. And the way that the major works is. Not only take neuro classes, but you can take a lot of different classes. Um, that kind of tie into neuroscience, for example, like comp sci, if you wanted to take like an intro to coding class that counts as a neuroscience major requirement, it was very, very interdisciplinary.

And I was like, this is great. So that was another reason why I was like looking towards these interdisciplinary re like ways to apply, because even though I knew that my like end goal was med school, I didn’t wanna spend my entire life leading up to that doing med stuff. Cuz I feel like that’s a little sad and um, I wanted to like take advantage of my college to kind of explore all the other things that I’d interested.

So I did that through my courses and also through. extracurriculars, which I’ll talk about in a second. The last thing I wanna touch on, that’s kind of on these slides is while I was applying to Penn, I kind of, well between like Cornell and Penn during early decision, kind of had that in mind. I was also applying to like my rolling admissions programs, um, before like, well, before I think I turned in, we have these two big colleges, there’s Penn state, and then there’s, um, university of Pittsburgh.

They’re like rolling. They’re like state schools, a lot of people from my high school go there. And, um, I applied to those in like August. Like I turned those in as soon as it opened. Cause I was like, if I’m not like, if I’m not gonna get enough head and like, I’m really want to get like a full ride somewhere else.

Like, you know what I mean? Like I really wanted to like take advantage of the college process and um, I got my decisions from them back really quickly. Like within, I wanna say. Two or three weeks. I already knew I was admitted into other colleges. So it was a little less stressful for me when I was waiting for like Penn’s decision to come back.

So that’s just like something to throw out there. If you guys are like, if you have these programs in your, um, home states that are like rolling and like state schools, like, please go ahead, apply for it. The faster you apply the better. And yeah, let’s just one little thing I wanted to add. so the next thing I already talked about why I was considering Cornell, so I won’t touch on that again.

But the other thing I also kind of mentioned was like proximity to home. I, um, as I mentioned earlier, like eldest child, parents are immigrants. I don’t really have that much family in the United States or at least I didn’t like when I was applying. And, um, I wanted that like support system. So that’s why proximity to home was pretty important to me.

It wasn’t the number one factor. So for example, if like, if Penn was in California and I applied to Penn and I got in, I would still go to Penn. Like, it wasn’t that big of like a deal, but it was definitely a plus. Um, additionally the urban campus was something I really wanted, like just being able to be in the city.

So many opportunities just like interacting with like local, like populations, just being involved within like other aspects that aren’t just Penn. We have this thing called like Penn bubble, which is like just Penn campus, being able to like, get out of that kind of like explore. Um, other things is like really, was really important to me when applying as well, because I wanted to just take advantage of like the city itself.

And then the last thing that’s really important. I mentioned this in like all my essays and my interview. So I had an interview for Penn. Um, this was before COVID, so this was in person. It was scary, but I talked about this and it like worked pretty well. Uh, they had this thing called a one university concept, which I kind of talked about earlier, but I’ll like, talk about it.

all of their schools are in one campus. So like the law school, the med school, um, all of their like research buildings and, um, just like a bunch of like other, like the vet school, like everything’s literally like, you can walk to it. And because of this, you can take classes and like anything. So if I was interested in like a law class, but I don’t wanna like fully commit, I could take one and it would like count as one of my, um, electives, you know what I mean?

So there’s like so much, um, opportunity to just like try other things. And when I was applying to college, I was really into cancer research. Um, I look back at that, I’m like, wow. I was like such an overachiever, but I like Deepak was there. We took the same class. I like wrote a whole paper on like cancer stuff.

And I was very. Involved with it. And, um, the research that I wrote about in my paper was like happening at Penn. So my goal was to like, get there and be like, okay, like, I wanna like work on this too. So I got there, I interviewed for his lab. I ended up not liking it, which is actually really funny, but, um, I’ll like just the opportunity that I had, like the chance to like, go talk to like the dude that did the research that I like wrote in a paper and like submitted for, for like, um, AP credit.

Like that was insane to me. So just all these like little things was like really important. They all kind of came together and made Penn like the main, like the best fit for me. And I’m really happy that I like ended up applying and like got in. Uh, the last thing about why I majored in neuroscience. So my whole thing is like interdisciplinary ness.

I think you guys kind of know that by now, but just the chance of like being able to apply it to like so many different fields is so cool. For example, um, I already talked about my courses, so I’m not gonna do that again, but technologically there’s so many like ways to put neuroscience, like with technology.

Um, I’ve worked in two labs throughout, like my undergrad so far and the like most recent one that I worked in, they develop like organoids, which is like stem cell brains. And then they like implant them into like rats that don’t have like proper brain functioning. And then it. Like you can find, like they literally just build a brain again.

Right. And you can connect that up to like computers and like code brain waves and like code it to like, um, behavioral tests to see if the organoids actually have like cellular input and if they’re actually working. And that was like, I didn’t even imagine that before. I didn’t realize you could like.

Transfer this onto like a computer screen. Like it actually like made sense. So that was really interesting to me. And that’s something that I found out after, like obviously getting into Penn, also doing all my research, also like the entrepreneurial field. I know Deepak talked about this a lot, but just like another side, there’s a lot of like ways to kind of put neuroscience into any other discipline.

That’s pretty interesting. One of my friends and I just started like a little startup. That’s not like neuro related, but it’s, um, public health related and it ties into a lot of the things that we talked about. My neuro class, it’s like, um, advocacy and the whole thing, like the opportunities that I had at Penn were the reasons why I like, could even do something like this in the first place.

So just having all of these different schools available to me, just let me kind of take neuroscience and like medicine, like try it out in all these different ways that I thought were really interesting. Also, I mentioned this earlier, but I’m minoring in chemistry and healthcare management chemistry. Um, if you’re pre-med you get a chemistry minor so that one’s like not special.

I had to take all the classes like biochem or go all that. And that’s why I have the chemistry minor, but healthcare management, I know that when I get into med school, I don’t wanna just do an MD. I wanna kind of supplement it with either an MBA or something else. And that’s why I kind of have this healthcare management minor on like the side.

And then the last one, I have a fine arts minor. And that’s just like a passion. I knew that I would be able to kind of take advantage of the courses Penn had and just like try something new out. So that’s why I did that. And then the last thing I’m gonna talk about is just leadership. There’s been so many opportunities, combining neuroscience and like leadership and, um, first thing, Penn neuro society.

So I became like, co-president when I was a sophomore and the club just like kind of expanded, grew a lot and it’s been really nice. Um, just being able to talk to, like everybody kind of build the neuroscience sphere outside of classes. So it’s just a way to kind of connect with a lot of other students.

There’s a lot of other labs and, um, extracurriculars. I was a part of that were like really nice. And just being able to, once again, like connect with people that I might not meet in classes. So like the labs I worked with a lot of med students and also like a lot of students. Like other med schools that would come during their breaks and just kind of work on this lab.

Cause it’s very, um, like new and translational. So a lot of people just wanna get involved. And then the last thing I was in student council, like very early on my like college crew, which was great. It like opened up a lot of doors at a lot of opportunities. And then, um, we’ve like senior societies. So, um, I’m like on Griffin, that’s a senior society for the college.

And the only reason I got to that point was because of all the extracurricular, like leadership that I did in college, which was kind of supplemented because I did it in high school and I wanted to continue it on. So yeah, there was a lot of me talking about neuro and like Penn, but hopefully that kind of gave you guys a good insight on kind of the more like pre-med and like interdisciplinary nature type things.

But yeah. Yes. So that is the end of the presentation part of the webinar. I hope you found this information helpful and remember that you can download the site from the link in the handouts tab, and this webinar is being recorded. If you would like to view it again, later on our website at app.CollegeAdvisor.com, moving on to live Q&A, I’ll read you your questions you submitted in the Q&A tab and read them aloud before our panelist gives you an answer as a heads up.

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And since the, um, some questions may be a little bit niche, like specific questions about specific programs, I’d recommend going to up Penn’s website to find out more information about those, but I will try and general. Topic so that our panelists can give you some insights into the school as a whole.

And so, yeah. So now just going to start a big question that every student has is how to stand out in the admissions process specifically here for UPenn. Um, so just to give them, uh, insight into your personal application process, what were some key highlights, um, of your admissions, such as your activities list or what you talked about in your essays that you think, um, helped you stand out in the admissions process?

Yeah, I can go first. Um, for this one, the things that kind of stood out for me in my application process, um, there’s a few things. So first I had a lot of good extracurriculars, the park, and I were actually in a lot of them together, which is great. We were both on like student council. We had like positions and then we were in, um, we were in this club of like, about reading and we had a lot of positions in that too.

Um, just like getting a lot of leadership’s really important. We were both on NHS, uh, national honor society. Um, Once again, leadership positions, a lot of leadership is like really important. Um, other than that, like I mentioned, like I had a lot of stem background pre-med background, so I had a lot of like things that kind of tied into that.

So I did a lot of volunteering. Um, Research. So our school offered this AP capstone. Um, course it was like two years. So it was AP seminar and then AP research. And a lot of people didn’t take it when it was like offered, but I genuinely think that’s one of the like main reasons why I got into Penn because in my research I talked about like all the cancer stuff I wanted to do in my why Penn essay.

I talked about how the cancer stuff was happening at Penn. And then in my interview, I was like, I really wanna be involved in this. And then like, obviously it’s like speculation, but I feel like them seeing a lot of like the research and then also the connections that I had with that, um, is like a pretty good reason why I got, and then not only that, but the fact that I could kind of handle like a really big like AP field course load.

Cause I took a lot of AP’s. Um, and then also had like leadership on the side. I feel like that was, um, pretty much like a good application strategy, the way that it turned out for me, unless like Deepak wants to add anything else. That’s a little bit like about mine. Yeah, I can, I can touch like a little bit more about mine.

Um, yeah. Hiba mentioned all the things that I was gonna say regarding extracurriculars. Um, we both had like pretty extensive leadership positions, um, in multiple clubs across the school. Um, things that I did though outside of school were I did research externally through AP research as well. Um, I ended up getting that published, which I think was super helpful.

Um, and then I also like founded a nonprofit that I think like really helped me stand out in context of like my application to Wharton. Um, I also like did a lot of like volunteer work and stuff like that. I was like involved in my youth group. Um, but I think like first and foremost, I probably should have loved with this.

Is that like, there is no, there is no actual formula to getting into Penn or getting into any Ivy or Ivy plus school. If there was like me and Hiba and, and, uh, and, and McKenzie would be like billionaires here today, but there’s no formula. I think the best advice I can give is like, figure out what your passion is.

And if you don’t have a passion, like totally fine, like that’s what college is for to find your passion. Um, but if you, if you found one, if you, if you’re something that really excites you, setting your application around that, um, and really showcase to the schools that you apply to, whether it’s Penn or anything else that like your passion is genuine and that like you would bring that passion to, um, Penn or any school that you applied to.

Um, and that, that’s kind of the best advice that I have. Yes. And a lot of students are always worried about standing out and like, should I take NHS? Should I take a million AP? Should I do this, that and the other? And both of y’all have some very impressive resumes and activities list from high school.

But, um, I just want everyone to remember that you are compared to students at your school. So maybe if you went to school with these wonderful analysts, you would have to have the same credentials, but it is based on the. Of your school and what was afforded to you, and then even still, even if other students are taking certain course or doing certain activities, you do not yourself.

Have to be a part of that in order to get into these top schools. It’s more so about what you’re able to do within, um, what your interests are, what, um, you had afforded to you and, uh, how you’re able to market that in a sense. And we do have other webinars that go into more detail about courses. You should be taking activity list building, and then tomorrow we will be having a webinar with admissions officers who can give you more insight into what AO’s are looking for in the application process.

And most of them will tell you, there is no perfect application. There is, um, no specific formula or anything. Some will even say you don’t even need volunteer hours. It really just depends on you. And what you find important, uh, going on to the next question, um, Kind of going off of that, uh, based on the students that you’ve seen at UPenn and two knowing each other, what sort of students do you think that, um, UPenn is looking for?

I think I’ll, I’ll start off real quick and then Hiba can can, sorry. It’s it’s Hiba. I called about high school um, so I think some of the things that are important for any applicant to Penn is, is really, like I said, like figuring out what your passion is and showcasing that passion. Um, if you join CollegeAdvisors, your advisor might tell you something along the lines of like figuring out what your peak is and figuring out what your brand is, and like sending your entire application around that brand.

Um, and I would say like think really hard and, and critically about what you want to brand yourself as, um, Like most likely you’re gonna have like 15 to 20 other applicants, like who are also branding themselves as your unique little brand. And so figuring out how your brand truly fits you and those authentic branding like that authentic brand to, to applicant match.

Those are the ones that, um, end up probably getting a closer look during the application round. uh, going on to the next question, we’ll go into some of the more social, uh, social things about UPenn. So students are asking about, uh, what is housing like at UPenn, uh, and then also, uh, touching upon, uh, is transportation free through the city.

Do more students have cars or use public transportation? What is the living and getting round situation like at U. Yeah, I can start this one. So living situation. Um, so this was after my class, but class of 20, 24. And afterwards, I believe you have to live on campus for your freshman and sophomore year.

So, um, there’s a lot of dorms. They open up a new one every year. It seems. And it’s always like new. It’s like, they’re great. They’re great places, but there’s. Freshman dorms. There’s like specific freshman dorms where you can kind of build a good community with other first years. And then after that you can move into like four year houses where a lot of like upperclassmen other people live.

So there’s a lot of like good housing places, which is like fantastic in terms of like getting around the city. Um, they have like pen buses that you can kind of like get on with your pen card. You can also request one with, we have this app called like pen ride. So like wherever you wanna get, I think it has to be like a mile radius or something like outside of that, you can kind of like request a ride and it’ll just like take you wherever in terms of like connecting with the rest of Philadelphia.

Um, I like, I genuinely don’t think there’s many people that bring their own cars to campus. Living in a city is like really nice because not only is like, most things are like walking distance. So like, if you wanted to go to a restaurant, if you wanted to. Checkout center city, which is like, where a lot of people go to just like, hang out.

Um, all of this is walking distance. I’m sure. Like some people have their cars and stuff on campus, but they don’t really use it to like get around. There’s a lot of good like public transportation stuff. So it’s very like accessible and everything’s pretty interconnected.

Yes. And Deepak, did you have anything you wanted to add to that about housing living situations? I, I think Hiba did a great job. Um, yeah, I think, I think she covered it all. It’s awesome. Being in the city and being connected to the city. okay. So I am seeing a lot of questions about, um, medical school and a lot of people are asking, uh, when students ask if I want to do pre-med, should I take a similar track with neuroscience?

If I want to do a combination of health and business, should I apply for the, the, the Galo pro or is it okay to stick to the college of arts and sciences? There are just a lot of genuine questions about like, um, whether or not to do pre-med what’s the program like, uh, can y’all both just talk about y’all’s, um, majors and the different opportunities available.

Mm-hmm yeah, I can like dive into this first. Um, pre-med okay. Keep in mind that when you’re pre-med you don’t have to major in anything specific, as long as you take the like necessary classes, which is like, you have to take a year of biology, um, two and a half years of chem, a year of physics, like it’s intense, but you can get it done while doing like any major you want.

I actually applied to Penn, like kind of unsure if I like fully wanted to commit to pre-med. I mean, I always knew I wanted to do something with the medical field, but I also knew that I didn’t wanna like dedicate my entire life studying biology, for example. So. I pick neuroscience because of its interdisciplinary nature.

If you are more into like hard research and hard, not meaning like difficult, hard, meaning like very like technical. So if you’re into like hard research, uh, then go for it, like apply as a biology major. I think one thing that’s really important though, is make sure that you kind of like, um, have a good like goal in terms of like med school.

Like you don’t wanna. Hold on. Let me like take that back. So essentially the way that it works is when you’re, pre-med like, yeah, there’s a lot of things that you have to do, but make sure that you also kind of balance it with like other opportunities and items because there’s, um, you’re going to be practicing medicine in your future, like forever.

Right? So that’s like take college as a way to kind of explore things that you really wanna like try out. And also the question about like the Vose program with like arts and sciences. So that’s called LSM, life sciences and management. It’s very, very selective. I think they only take 25 people a year. So honestly, if you aren’t like fully.

Like if you’re kind of like confused if you wanna do like business and medicine, or if you don’t really have that many like high school extracurriculars or like really strong story, kind of like supporting that. I would suggest just applying to like the college of arts and sciences, because, um, I also have like that interest with health and business, but the Vose program, you have to take like more credits than a lot of other people do.

Um, and then if you, like, aren’t fully committed to just kind of like doing that practicing in terms of like, after graduating, I feel like there’s like other ways to kind of get that done without having to fully commit to like a really hard rigorous program. I got a lot of like good business, um, opportunities and exposure just through my classes and just through like extracurriculars available.

So I wouldn’t like, unless you’re like fully set on that, like I would recommend just like apply through arts and sciences. That’s just like a little bit on my end, if Deepak wants to like talk any about his like entrepreneurial stuff, like go for it. Yeah. I, I very purposefully went on mute when all the pre-med questions started coming up.

um, I am, I am not a person to talk about that. I think, I think you probably covered all that amazingly . Um, Yeah. yeah, there are a lot of questions about pre-med. Um, just to clarify, this goes for pretty much every school pre-med is just pre-med pre-law anything that has pre in front of it is a pre-professional track, which means you are taking courses that will prepare you for those graduate programs, such as medical school, law, school, veterinarian school, or dental school.

And those are just additional classes you take in addition to, or in combination with, um, your major. So you can major in anything you want. Some people choose to go into stem, major, such as biology or chemistry, or some combination of that, just because it tends to fulfill a lot more of the pre-med requirements, but there are other options you could major in English if you wanted to and be pre-med.

Um, it’s really just based on your interest and how you want your schedule to pan out, especially at an interdisciplinary school, that’s where it really gets fun because pre-med, um, you can, um, you’ll get your pre-med requirements done, but you can also. Explore a lot of other options. So if you’re interested in pre-med, but you’re maybe not a science person or you’re unsure, definitely looking into an interdisciplinary school like UPenn or the better school Cornell, um, can be a great option, um, for you, um, when researching and trying to figure out what you wanna do, uh, going on to next question.

And just to clarify, this webinar is on university of Pennsylvania, which is an Ivy league. Penn State University is a public school. Um, there are two different institutions. I got them confused throughout the application process, but they are different schools. Um, so kind of going off of that can, um, y’all talk about what you think the financial aid and scholarship situation is for you at this school or for students in general.

Like how affordable do you think, uh, UPenn is for. Yeah, I can kind of kick us off. Um, and, and totally no worries about the whole Penn State/UPenn thing. It wouldn’t be a webinar about Penn if we didn’t get that confusion. um, so regarding financial aid, I think Penn is not, I think like Penn does a pretty good job of, of, um, meeting any need based aid.

Uh, but you definitely should check out the financial aid calculator on their website. Um, I don’t want to give like any specifics beyond that, cause I don’t wanna be wrong. Um, but in terms of like scholarships, we unfortunately don’t give any merit based scholarships because we are part of the Ivy league and, and no schools in the Ivy league do that.

It’s like some, uh, agreement that they have to gate keep money from us. Um, but definitely check out the financial aid calculator and you can apply to external scholarships and, and bring that money to Penn. Um, I have external scholarships that do transfer, so it’s very, very easy to. Yeah, for sure. And I can add in like one other thing.

Um, so like I mentioned, when I applied to all my other schools earlier, I got like really good financial aid packets from them. Like I could have been going to like college for free for some of ’em and like other ones were really, really good. Yeah. No, I’m paying a lot. if you pen and, um, like Deepak said, they do meet like need based aid, but like, for some students that like doesn’t apply.

So a lot of like the money that kind of goes towards Penn, like I could have been saving it for other schools, but I definitely think it’s worth it in terms of like the network kind of like the opportunities. I have a lot of things. So it was something that I was talking to my parents about while applying, but at the end of the day it was like, I know.

Okay. So Harvard says this a lot. They’re. Um, you’re paying for like an investment for like your future, whatever. So I that’s what I used to like tell my parents as like you’re investing in me for like the future. So, I mean, it worked well, but, um, like Deepak said, you can find like external scholarships. I see a question in the chat, like about it.

So just like an example, um, you can, if you like volunteer at hospital, sometimes they give out like scholarships. I know that’s kind of like contrary because you shouldn’t be volunteering for like a scholarship, but like there’s places that, um, give you scholarships. Um, just kind of applying to those kind of some other programs that you’re in, but if you can like, make it work definitely with like the external stuff.

Um, hopefully that answer that question, but yeah. Yes. Uh, just to reiterate none of the Ivy’s give merit based scholarships or athletic scholarships, they just don’t give out scholarships. We get grants over here. Um, so basically your merits or your qualifications, all the things that you’re doing in high school now to stand out is what helps you get into the school, but it’s your parents and your family’s financial situation that will determine how much money you get.

So like at Cornell, um, I. I was able to get in with early decision with my credentials, but my financial aid was based on my family situation, which was still pretty good. Um, but I also applied to Howard university and my credentials got me in, but my credentials also got me a full ride to Howard University.

So I had to give up before ride, um, for Cornell, which was worth it, don’t get me wrong. But yeah. So if you are looking into the Ivy leagues, it can be an affordable option for students from lower income families. Middle income is where financial aid gets a little trickier. And if you just have enough money to pay outright, then, um, you’ll more so just be worrying about getting merit based scholarships from somewhere else.

Um, so yeah, and kind of going off of that, if either of you have any outside scholarships you would like to share, uh, do you mind talking about them or how that process worked? Yeah, so I don’t have any maybe default does. Yeah. So I think all the ones that I’ve got have just been like amalgamations of things that are going on in the community.

Um, your, your township might provide stuff. Your like my credit union gave me a scholarship. Um, like it’s really random things. Um, if you’re looking for like big ticket scholarships though, like I would check out like the Coca-Cola foundation, they give out like $40,000 scholarships or something like that, but they also only give it out to 150 people.

So there’s like a little bit of like, uh, well, you get it. I don’t know. Um, like, but I, I would honestly just go on, um, shoot, like literally what is the, there there’s websites that like list a bunch of scholarships for you and also, uh, CollegeAdvisor has resources for, um, finding and applying to scholarships.

Like we have an entire database for that, and that’s provided to you. I’m pretty sure as you, as you, like when you join on as, as a client, so quick plug for that. Yes. And kind of going off of that for those in the room who aren’t already working with us, we know that the admissions process can be overwhelming for parents and students alike, especially with, um, looking into these Ivy league institutions and trying to figure out financial aid and how to get your application just right for all of these schools.

Um, but we wanna offer you our services. Um, so if you go to app.CollegeAdvisor.com. You can sign up for a free, um, you can set up your account with us where you can explore different website, um, webinars, uh, our different resources, and you can set up a free consultation with us with our, um, with our admissions specialist team, uh, and find out more about what our packages are, what we offer and really through CollegeAdvisor, you not only get access to our financial aid um, college list, building team and our, um, essay review team, which can help you through out every part of the application.

You also get wonderful advisors such as Deepak and Hiba, um, to really figure out, um, what you need to do to apply to these schools. And our advisors were accepted into a plethora of schools. So they can really give you insight, um, into the application process, into applying to top schools and what it’s like being at these schools and in different majors and the match team is great at matching you with someone who fits those needs that you have.

So we do highly recommend going to app.CollegeAdvisor.com to find out more information about that. And, um, to find out about getting an advisor who can help you with these more niche, um, questions that I am seeing in the chat, especially about pre-med. We do have a lot of advisors that are pre-med or have finished pre-med, um, and are going into medical school.

Uh, so definitely check out our services, um, so that you can get the support that you need now back to the Q&A, and, um, if, either of y’all see any questions in the chat that you wanna get to specifically feel free to just direct, um, message them, but to go onto the next question, um, how would you. Say, um, uh, what we call it up pen’s academic rigor.

Is, would you say it’s a very cutthroat campus or how do you think students and professors and courses are like at UPenn? I think so this one, so I think Deepak and I will probably have like a few different opinions on this. Um, pre-med in general is pretty cutthroat. It’s kind of insane. Um, I see a lot of like questions on the side too, so I’ll try to like incorporate them in like my answer, but I’ve noticed that in my minors.

So the one, one of my minors is through war, the other minors, like art. So you can’t really be cutthroat in art where like drawing all the time, but in like the other classes. So, um, hold on. I think my Internet’s like a little choppy. Yeah. you’re good.

Okay. I think it’s working now. Yeah. Okay, cool. But, um, as I was saying in like my art and my like business one is like, not that cutthroat, but like premed is pretty cutthroat, but other than that, it’s kind of like, you can find people to kind of work with that makes it a little bit better, but in terms of just like courses, sometimes it’s a little stressful, but there’s a lot of like support groups and stuff that you can kind of get out of while studying pre-med, especially at Penn, I’m sure.

Deepak has some opinions about like Wharton too. So I’ll let ’em like talk about that. Yeah. So my thoughts are that, um, first and foremost, I think Wharton is one of the most like collaborative spaces that I’ve been in, in my entire life. Um, I remember like coming in, I was like really nervous. Cause I was like, what happens when you put like literally all the like nations in the world’s like top people in one room who are all trying to get like the same types of jobs and like trying to get to the same to classes and get A’s and like.

Like what happens? Like I feel like it would have to be competitive. Um, but like, it’s just been nothing but the opposite. Um, I think like overall what’s really awesome at Wharton is that everybody’s really out there to look for each other. Um, like a win for me is a win for like my best friend who’s who’s in my classes and a win for them is a win for me.

So that’s just kind of the way that I’ve, I mean, also it’s like, I’ve surrounded myself with people who believe it, like who believe that way. So I think it’s a lot of just, how do you, how do you make, like find people who will support you? Um, I think every group of like students will have their bad apples.

That’ll give them their bad rep. Um, but in my experience like Wharton has been super collaborative. Um, and, and that’s what I have to say about that regarding like class rigor, I think, um, I think there are like majors that are difficult at Wharton. Um, but I think there were also others where the hardest part was getting into the school.

Um, if that, if that makes sense, you can read between those lines. . Uh, for students asking about the specific, um, BS, uh, MD or dental tracks, uh, I do recommend going to the website just so you can get more in depth information about those programs and what they offer, and I’m sure they also have, um, well, I will ask y’all do they have like programs where current students, um, will speak with, um, students that are interested about the programs?

And if so, can you talk about some of those supports and opportunities? Yes, I can. I can start off. Um, I cannot plug Wharton ambassadors more. Let me figure out how to chat all of you at once. Um, but while I figured that out, I’ll, I’ll talk to you about it. Wharton ambassadors can you’ll, you’ll get matched to a current Wharton student, um, could be me, I I’m part of the program.

Um, and all you, and you can ask them any questions that you want regarding like applications, what life is like at Wharton specific classes. Um, anything like that. Um, if you’re interested in the college or like a lot of the other programs, even, even more than you wanna speak to, like anybody at Penn, kite, and key is kind of the society for you to go to.

Uh, we host also coffee. We also host coffee chats and we host like all the, uh, information, like all the, um, campus tours. But if you wanna be matched like a specific person, you can go into kit and key, um, like the website and like look for specific, um, guides. And then you can email the general contact box and say, Hey, I wanna reach out to Deepak.

You want like, isn’t this program? And I wanna learn more private. Um, that is, that is the way I would do those two things. Um, also here at CollegeAdvisors, like we have an entire team dedicated towards matching, um, advisors with like advisors to go to specific schools with our students. So if you wanna learn about Cornell, Brown, Columbia, Penn, and like Stanford, you don’t have to go through all those websites and like find all those people and maybe get ghosted by them.

You can literally just, um, email your advisor and they’ll match you specifically with. Um, who can talk to you more about each of those schools? Um, which I think is just such a great resource. Definitely. I know for me, I have gotten emails from other advisors about students that are interested in Cornell and just needed another person to talk to about their essay or about, um, what it’s like at Cornell in the different opportunities.

And I know I sat down for like an hour or so and spoke about the different opportunities for neuro law, which is apparently a thing. Um, so yeah, so definitely being within the network can help you get those extra supports and resources. And get all these specific questions answered, uh, and you can, both of y’all can, um, type, uh, any additional information in the public chat and it’ll go to everybody.

It’s the public chat, just isn’t open to the audience at the moment, just because it is a larger crowd. Um, kind of going off of that though, going back to the application process, uh, what do a students ask me? What does Penn look for when reading an applicant’s essays? How can applicants make themselves stand out from other applicants in their essays?

And just can, y’all talk about some of the things y’all talked about and maybe your personal statement or in your supplements that you think really helped, um, help you stand out mm-hmm yeah, I can start this one off. Um, I feel like Deepak can also like talk about this too, but a lot of it is just kind of having like a unified theme, essentially.

A lot of the activities that I was doing came together and like on like surface level, if you looked at them, they look kind of different. For example, student council. The reading club, we were in a lot of the, um, volunteering that I did. Um, all of these like different things look very different, like, and not connected when you kind of looked at them like surface level, like I mentioned, but then you would like kind of dove a little bit deeper and you’d like draw ties.

So for example, I talked about leadership and how I really like leadership and how I wanted to take those opportunities. And that kind of came through with a lot of my extracurriculars and my personal statement and my like why Penn supplement and all these things. I talked about how I was interested in interdisciplinary, like studies and also just like innovation, essentially, that kind of sh like was there and everything like shown through and all of my extracurriculars and my like responses and my interview.

I talked about that too. The entire, yeah, I think my interview was an hour long and after the first five. Just getting to know each other thing. It was all just talking about the research that I did through that one class. And then also just how I applied it in different ways. So very like interdisciplinary, but they also really like pull out, um, things that you focus on and if it’s a really good fit for the school, I feel like that’s something that they’re looking towards.

Um, if wants to add anything, like, go ahead. Yeah. I think, um, Hiba covered like all the technical stuff beautifully. Like you should definitely talk about all those interests and like make sure it’s there. It was on my application just to add to that, um, make sure that your personal statements are actually personal.

Like don’t just like make your common app a list of your accomplishments or like, here’s what I did in high school. And like, here’s why like brought me to Penn. Like you, you wanna connect it to you, uh, because at the end of the day, like admissions officers admit individuals and they admit you for being a person, um, not necessarily just for your, like your list of accomplishments.

Um, so yeah, that’s, that’s the only thing I would add. Like if you, if you spend your time like taking care of your family, like write about that in your application. Um, like nothing is nothing is too like stupid or too, like minute for you to include, uh, kind of changing the subject a bit. What would you say the vibe of the campuses?

Um, this is speaking to like things to do, uh, diversity on campus, uh, campus culture, just anything. Uh, how do you feel as a student individual, uh, at UPenn? Do you feel like it’s a good fit or space for you?

Yeah, I can start this one. Um, one thing that I really liked about Penn was the fact that it was like a lot more diverse somewhere. I went to high school. Uh, I think while I was in high school, I was like one of. I think I was the only hijabi in my grade hijabi is just like the scarf that I wear in my head.

I’m Muslim anyways. but I was like the only one. Right. And I’ve always kind of wanted a space that I could find others that looked like me and like not kind of feel. Awkward about like who I am. So when I got into Penn and noticed that not only do they have an MSA, which is like a Muslim student organization, they also have like all these other affinity groups, just like a lot of diversity that they promote.

And it’s fantastic. I met a lot of like my really close, good friends at Penn and, um, was able to kind of find people that I can like connect with on like a different level than just like academic and like extracurriculars just through like the opportunities that were offered also in terms of like diversity.

I know the chemistry department specifically. So if you’re like pre-med, and also like thinking about diversity and just like incorporating these things, the chemistry department, when I was a sophomore, started this new program where they’re like actively trying to talk about like diversity and trying to like bring in diversity within.

Like academic programs. So we had like a panel where a lot of people that were already in med school or like grad school and like doing great things with their lives. Like they came back and they were talking about how they kind of wished they had more diversity in undergrad or how they wished they had more opportunities.

And the camera departments, like trying to talk about that and like, like work on becoming more equitable and like, um, just accessible to everyone. So I think that’s like something that’s really great at, um, our university also another thing there’s a lot of like, there’s like free, this goes in terms of like classes.

Cause there’s a lot of like times when people might come from different backgrounds where you might not like fully feel comfortable with like the course load and the classes that you immediately get thrown into when you become a freshman, um, I’m gonna plug the tutoring center. I’ve been tutoring there for a while.

I worked with them. through student government when I was a freshman and sophomore, but we offer like two free like class tutors. So like, if you’re taking, let’s say organic chemistry, I tutor organic chemistry. So I would be your tutor. But anyways, if you’re taking like a really hard class, like organic chemistry or like biochem, a neuroscience class, these are all classes that I like kind of work with.

Um, you can get paired with a tutor. That’ll meet with you, like either once or twice a week. And they’ll literally like help you do really well in the class. And it’s like all free. It’s very like accessible. So it’s like nice how the like Penn has like opportunities to kind of be more diverse and like inclusive to all different backgrounds, all different like people.

And it’s like, good. It’s a great to see. So that’s where like the college of arts and sciences, if Deepak wants to like add anything in about Wharton. Yeah. Yeah. I think like everything that you just talk about extends to Wharton as well. Um, when like Penn admits their class, they really, really do value the like.

Diversity of their incoming class. They wanted to represent the world. And not just like maybe the high school or town that you you’ve experienced your entire life, um, to add just like one more thing onto that. I don’t think there’s like a better school. That’s like a better fit for me, honestly. Like I, I’m really lucky that the admissions process just ended up working out this way.

And I wanna just like end the panel with the note that like, if you Penn or find that like Penn is your dream school and you don’t get in, like do not, do not like beat yourself up. Um, my dream school who shall not be named, started with an S and ended with a Ford, did not let me in. Um, and, and honestly, I was really sad.

I was like, I didn’t even get like waitlisted. They straight up just rejected me after I applied early there. And I was like, I, I put a lot of effort into my application and I did a lot of really cool things in high school. And it was like really demeaning to be just like, oh, okay. Like a three word, a three word letter saying like, sorry, you’re not in.

Um, but everything works out. Um, everything happens for a reason and like, There’s no way I would enjoy my time at college, as much as I do at Penn as I would, um, at S Ford. Um, I think that Penn is perfect for, for me and, and like, you will find you’re perfect fit or even just like a decent fit if, if Perfect’s not, uh, out there, but yeah, that, that’s what I’ll end with.

Like, everything happens for a. Yes. And kind of closing off on the webinar. I know that I did see some questions about GPAs and, um, SAT scores and specific numbers check out our other webinars on those topics specifically. Um, as well as our webinars on activities list and letters of recommendation for more specific information and do check out up pen’s website for those more specific details about what they’re looking for from an average student, or what’s required on your application, just so you can be sure what you actually need, uh, and because everyone’s application is going to be different.

So asking about if a specific score will get you in is probably not gonna get you the answer you want. So I do recommend checking out their website, but just to close off the webinar, is there any final advice about researching schools or figuring out if UPenn is the right place for you that you would like to give to the students?

Yeah, I think like for researching schools, um, trying to engage as much with the school itself. Ignore everything us news board reports have to say ignore everything like college prep scholar has to say. Um, like I would delete like niche.com from any like sort of internet browser that you have, like literally ignore all that.

Um, talk to students. Um, people like McKenzie, hi, about, I can really give you like an inside scoop of what life is like at Cornell or at Penn or any other school that you’re interested in. Um, and like make sure that you go to their info sessions, see what, like they’re all about. Um, for example, like some schools will really like preach certain things over others.

Like, think about that when you go to apply to that school. Um, and if you can like tour the school, um, but take that with a grain of salt. Cause I also hated my time at Penn when I visited oh, my campus door. Um, and I love it now. Literally love it now. So

yeah, everything you said was like, perfect. I don’t think there’s anything else that I wanna add to that. So I fully agree with everything Deepak said. Yes. And also just to plug some of our other webinars, check out our choosing between school’s webinar or researching school’s webinar, where you can find out more information about how to find a good fit school for you.

And again, tomorrow we are having a webinar with two AO’s that can give you a lot more insights into the specific numbers and stats, and what stands out to an AO and give you that insight scoop as well as our other webinars, that AO’s, that do the same thing, um, from different schools and different perspectives.

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