College Major Deep Dive: Humanities Panel

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2022-05-18 College Major Deep Dive – Humanities Panel

[00:00:00] Hi everyone. Welcome to CollegeAdvisor’s webinar on College Major Deep Dive – Humanities Panel. To orient everyone with the webinar timing, we’ll start off with a presentation. Then answer your questions in a live Q&A on the sidebar. You can download our slides and you can start submitting your questions in the Q&A tab.

Now let’s meet our panelists, so I will start off. So, hi, I’m Mckenzie Murray. I am currently a rising junior at Cornell university. I am a human development major with minors in education and inequality studies. And, um, I’d been working at CollegeAdvisor, um, for the past year now as an advisor and webinar coordinator.

And I really enjoy working with students and helping them through the admissions process. And it’s, um, definitely affected my career decisions and my courses. Awesome. Hi everyone, I am Ainsley. Um, I’m also a rising junior, but this whole time at NYU, um, I’m a triple major in [00:01:00] sociology, urban design and architecture studies and Italian.

Um, and I’ve been with cultural here for about a year now as well. I’m also an advisor and then I really have loved getting a chance to learn about all my students’ stories and help them kind of craft those stories into compelling narratives for college. Hi everyone. My name is Lisa. My pronouns are she her hers?

Um, I graduated from Occidental college in 2016, um, and that’s a small liberal arts college in Los Angeles. And then later I went on to get my master’s in higher education from the university of Pennsylvania graduate school of education. And I’ve worked for lots of different higher ed institutions. I currently work full-time as the assistant director for international studies at the Lauder Institute, which is a combined MBA and M a international studies degree program.

Um, but in the past, I’ve also worked for Vanderbilt university Arcadia university, university of Chicago, et cetera. Uh, so I have a whole host of experiences, but I’ve only been with CollegeAdvisor for almost a year or so. Um, so yeah, excited to be on this. [00:02:00] Yes. So just to get the webinar started, we’ll start off with a quick panel.

So what grade are you currently in eighth, ninth, 10th, 11th, 12th. There are other, and other can be, if you’re a parent on the call, a transfer student or a student taking a gap year, and while we wait for those to roll in, can you all tell us a little bit about what was the most interesting or fun humanities course you’ve taken?

Hmm, that’s a good question. I feel like I’ve taken so many. I think I took one called American capitalism in theory and practice, which is a very long name. Um, but it was really about kind of the roots of capitalism in terms of the thinkers who thought about it and kind of how it has actually developed in America, the impacts of that and how we kind of assess that on in the current context.

So I think very valuable wasn’t American citizen and really made me think a lot more about my role in our current. I think my most interesting was, um, the art of teaching, which I took my freshman year. Uh, it was a course on teaching, of course, in different teaching methods and practices while I’m not trying to become a teacher.

It was just [00:03:00] really interesting to dissect how schools function, um, what a good teacher was, what a bad teacher was, and be able to talk about some of my experiences from high school. So it was just a fun course and I got to do. That sounds very cool. I’m a little jealous. Um, I would say my favorite or one of my favorite humanities related courses that I took in college was actually my first year writing seminar.

Um, and so we got to choose to take a writing seminar on a topic that we’re interested in. Um, like we don’t get to select the topics. Of course there’s like, they’re already preset, but you get to choose. Um, and the one I chose, I believe that name was called Cowboys samurai and other manly men. So it was all about dissecting our understandings of masculinity, um, and understanding gender studies and how masculinity and gender roles and gender studies and understandings of gender in general are socially constructed.

And we also analyzed, um, how masculine be is. Depicted [00:04:00] through various media. So we would read various books, novels. Um, we watched documentaries, um, we analyze movies and understood how, um, there were certain film tactics that were used to accentuate one’s masculinity, for example, uh, we learn lots of gender theories.

So that was definitely one of my favorite humanities related courses. Definitely. Cool. I’m a freshman writing seminar on very tells and my last paper was on iron man and how it counts as a fairytale. So I really love those. So that’s the cool thing it’s looking like. We have 67% are 10th graders and 33% our 11th graders.

Okay. And now we will get into the webinar. Okay. So, okay. So again, I’m a human development major. So I’m going to talk a bit about why I, or how I came to this decision. So I guess I’ll start off with talking about how I picked Cornell. So I really fell in love with the college [00:05:00] of human ecology, which is a smaller college within Cornell as a whole.

That really focuses on the human aspect of different parts of society in order to improve, um, our daily lives. So it has a variety of majors, such as policy and design, where. They all, again, focus on how you can improve different aspects of society, culture, medicine, um, policy to really improve how we live and how we interact with ourselves and the environment around us.

And so I really enjoyed it because it was a great mixture of humanities and stem. And again, that focus on the human aspect of things. And then, um, the reason I chose this was because I initially was interested in being, um, pre-med and I was a public health major, but I did have a stronger interest in the humanities side.

So really having that balance, but being able to fulfill my pre-med requirements was very important to me. So that was something I very much valued. And then also I really loved [00:06:00] every single major that the college of human ecology offered. So I knew if I want it to switch majors that eventually I would be able to, and I would just keep jumping until I found something.

Which I did end up doing my second year, second semester, freshman year, after taking some education and human development courses, I decided to drop pre-med and switch into human development. Um, this came about, um, because I realized while I do love public health issues and they are very interesting. I didn’t like medicine as much in going into the medical field and it didn’t really fit what my actual goals were.

Um, and I really reevaluate what I wanted to do and found that education, nonprofit, nonprofit, and the public sector were more of my interests. And I found that. I would be able to do more public health work through education, but also doing other things that I was interested in. So that’s really where that decision came from.

Uh, and then also, I just really [00:07:00] love working with kids and youth, especially adolescents. Um, and then another thing about the HD program is very interdisciplinary, which I very much appreciate since I have a lot of different interests. So I’ve been able to take courses in sociology, psychology education.

Of course I TA I take Spanish, um, which is a bit of a struggle, but it’s definitely worth it. Um, and then even this past semester, I took a course on global development programs and how to develop those and evaluate them, which is just provides me some interesting skills to use in the future. So going on to the next slide, um, the CU what career opportunities are available to HD major.

So for me personally, I want to go into school counseling and then also do program development, select developing nonprofits, doing curriculum planning, uh, and then also going into education reform policy to increase the amount of mental health resources available to students, uh, in, um, schools, because I find that’s very important and then [00:08:00] also doing passionate purpose research.

Cause I really feel that helping students to find their passion and purpose in life can really help them with enjoying and feeling more fulfilled with their educational and occupational outcomes. So that’s something that I’m very much interested in that this major has allowed me to do. Um, many people associate stem with, um, research and they don’t really see the humanities as being very research focused, but, um, that is not the case.

Um, in my major, um, it is a bit stem related. I do get a bachelor’s of science with them. But, um, it is more humanities courses, but that doesn’t mean research is in applied, especially in the human sciences, um, where you will find a lot of, um, the same, um, randomized control trials and lab work that you see in the natural sciences.

Um, you will find that here, but you can also do research in more traditional liberal and humanities majors, such as English. Um, they just may look a little bit different. So for me personally, I’m currently doing [00:09:00] my own independent research project, which was something that I was able to do in this program on, um, the relationship between identifying passion and purpose and how it works as a supportive and even protective measure for black and other more marginalized students at, um, Ivy league institutions.

Um, another thing of research that I’m doing is I just got accepted as a pride scholar, which is a scholars program. That does translational research on youth and youth development programs. And I will be working alongside my advisor, Dr. Burrow, uh, in his purpose and identity lab. So that’s really cool.

And then finally, um, just in terms of opportunities available, you can really go into any field. So I’m going into education, but if I wanted to, I could just fulfill some pre-med requirements again and go into medicine, or you can even go into business. Um, it’s they provide different course lists to suggest what you, what courses you can take, [00:10:00] um, through the very interdisciplinary, um, focus, um, to go into different fields.

So that’s cool. And then, um, it’s really depends on what courses you pick, but then also those outside of the classroom experiences such as research interests. What else, um, uh, connections that you make, it’s really just depends. And that goes for all majors. You can really do anything with any major, which is something I really wanted to highlight.

Um, it really just depends on what you make of your experience, your connection, and your course. And I will pass it off to my other panelists. Awesome. Thanks Mackenzie. And yeah, I’m an echo. A lot of those things here probably, but really great introduction from Mackenzie. So in terms of me, um, I’m triple majoring in a set in sociology, urban design and architecture and Italian.

So I’m going to cover each of those pretty briefly in terms of what they kind of entail. But I will say that like my main major, the first one I declared is sociology. So someone’s having be more focused on that major in particular. So in terms of sociology and it’s really the study [00:11:00] of society, I always say it’s like psychology is looking at individual person and how they think and operate.

And sociology is looking at a whole society as a whole group of people. It’s more systemic than it is. Um, and it is a little more social science oriented. You do take stats classes, you do take research classes. Um, but again, it’s a lot of reading, a lot of social theory, and that is a very humanities based kind of discipline there.

Urban design architecture at NYU. This looks like, um, looking at the history of city planning, looking at the history of architecture, understanding how people interact with the built environment and understanding saying how policies like government or policies or spending policies impact the city and the people that live in there.

So again, a lot of reading, a lot of research, um, everything manual. And finally for Italian, um, at NYU, this is a language and a culture major. So half your classes are going to be advanced time classes during the how to speak, how to translate, how to write in Italian creative writing in Italian. But you’re also going to study the area and the culture quite a lot to get that cultural context.

And so really, again, a very humanities driven [00:12:00] major. Um, and so in terms of how I arrived on these majors, I came to NYU knowing that I wanted to do sociology, but I wasn’t so sure about the others. I knew that I wanted to study a language in college in some capacity. Um, and I knew that I wanted to, you know, look into more into architecture because I always have loved urban design in cities, but I didn’t know how that kind of would play.

So in terms of riding at sociology in the first place, this was really the result of constant exploration and self-reflection and discussion. So the first thing that I did with all of these majors at different stages in time was think about what things really sparked my interest, what things I talk with my friends about for hours, what sort of books do I gravitate towards in my free time?

Just kind of realizing what my passions were, what were the things that really drove me and made me want to do the work versus having to do the work. And then these kinds of web discussions with mentors, which in high school where teachers were coaches. Um, I did dual enrollment in high school. So also professors at my college, I did dual enrollment at and, and college has been also those professors and really talking with them about, I have interest.

I love this part. [00:13:00] What sort of major, what sort of career path when you kind of explore that more. Right. And then those led to kind of self-reflection of, okay, now I have all this information. I know, kind of what’s out there and what I like. And so knowing that, what paths do I want to go down? And the key thing here is just being active, being, um, actively putting yourself out there, taking responsibility for what you want to do, um, and kind of riding on the subjects that you find to be just fascinating.

Um, and then I think the other thing that I did think about here as well, what things are important to me in a career? You know, I’m still kind of deciding between career paths. I’m considering either going to academia or possibly going into more business related field. But I also knew that I wanted a career that was going to be, um, you know, Pushed me to think.

I would prefer a more faster paced environment. So finding career that I knew that these majors with each have careers in those fields, um, that have the kind of characteristics. Um, and I also want to make years that would give me employable skills, but what also really get, did those interests that I had identified in that reflection phase.

And so sociology, I knew that would give me, um, a [00:14:00] strong command of quantitative skills as well as research skills, which are just so applicable to academia, to business roles like marketing to HR. I need that would be a very strong basis. Um, and urban design also teaches the strong research skills, very strong writing skills, um, which again are pretty much always necessary at any industry.

And also gave me a really good knowledge of public policy. Cause I was considering going into more public service role for some time. Um, and then finally, I think learning a second language is always going to be valuable to any employer. Um, and it also taught me a lot of cultural awareness, which I think is just so important in this world where we’re kind of, you know, America is getting more diverse.

Businesses are trying to be more aware of DEI initiatives and it really has taught me, um, at some more cultural awareness. And then finally, in terms of how I came to these at NYU specifically, I think something that I want to emphasize for you all in high school is, you know, I knew that I wanted to do sociology in high school.

I wasn’t so sure about my other majors, but I knew that I want humanities majors. So I really looked into what schools were going to support me in the humanities. Right. I knew that MIT was not going to be the place for me. Um, you know, I [00:15:00] knew that, that they weren’t going to have the best program for what I wanted to do.

So I looked for schools that had, you know, renown in the humanities that were going to let me be cross-disciplinary. I know NYU is so good for that. So looking at schools that were going to support that, um, and looking at school to have a good study abroad programs, clubs, things like that outside of the actual coursework that we’re, again, going to support humanities majors, um, where people with similar interests to mine, um, in terms of the next slide, I’ll get more into kind of how best led to career paths going through.

Um, awesome. So in terms of the opportunities that there are, um, specifically, I will say that, as I mentioned earlier, I’m kind of considering two career paths. One is getting a PhD in sociology and the other is working in business and more specifically in consulting. Um, and so, I mean, as you’ve been seeing, there are two very different paths.

And I think this speaks to the fact that the humanities are just really opened up a world of opportunities too, because you’re getting these really foundational skills, like critical thinking, like communication skills, writing research that are going to be needed in pretty much any job you [00:16:00] do. Um, you know, that being said a lot of skills you will also need for a specific career.

Maybe you decide you want to go into investment banking for whatever reason, but you’re doing an English major. You can learn all those skills in clubs and internships. If you want to go into other, a public policy writing role, and you can learn how to recoat policy in student clubs on campus, right? If you want to go into a social work career, you can do internships in social work while you’re still in college.

So no matter what you want to go into. Think of humanity as your kind of your broad base. And then you can use clubs, internships, you know, specific electives to kind of narrow in on the skills that you might want for that specific career. And for me personally, I rambling should in the sociology of business and kind of sociology of capitalism in America.

And so I’ve gotten really involved in some business clubs on campus that are doing social impact work to understand not only how, um, you know, business, this is what works as an internship from the business world to get a sense of what it’s like to work in a big corporate setting. And I also am currently do we have with a professor at NYU who specializes in [00:17:00] sociology, capitalism.

So I’ve really kind of developed that narrow path by looking at those clubs and outside of work beyond my classes. Um, and I will say something too, is that, you know, no matter what you’re applying for, if you’re inside that you want to go into marketing after, you know, your two years and your history degree, you can absolutely go into marketing with that.

You know, as long as you can connect your major and your interests to why you want that career path in the interview, you’re not going to have any problems there. And then kind of go into that. I personally have had a lot of different interests. I’ve tried a lot different career paths. I’ve tried people consulting.

I am still considered academic research, but I have done academic research in, um, sociology and business. Um, I had offers to do finance roles. I’m going to consulting. So a really broad range of areas. And in each of these, I’ve had no issue having a humanities major. Um, in fact, I think as stands out more, especially in business fields, cause you have a unique story and if you’re able to connect.

The research skills that you learn in sociology to the research skills that you need to do on a company when you’re working for a company, I think that’s going to be, um, an easy pathway. Um, and in [00:18:00] particular, to an idea of what each my majors might look like for career opportunities, um, sociology is really great for pre-meds, um, giving you that kind of cultural context that you need to succeed as a doctor.

And it’s also a great pre-launch major. You’re studying inequality and that’s so central to law. Um, it’s really good for HR roles. I know a lot of people who went into the HR side of business, um, also can be used to develop policy research. You know, you’re studying inequality again. So if you’re doing sociology of cities, sociology of gender or race, that’s a really great background, um, to kind of go into policy research also great for consumer research.

Um, so, you know, working for a marketing company and trying to understand who you’re marketing to those research skills that you’ve learned on humans is going to be really good. And then finally academia for urban design. I think it’s really good for real estate oriented business careers, really good for policy or governmental careers.

If you want to be a city of. Great preparation. Um, and also if you want to get that master’s degree in architecture, that will give you those technical skills to architecture also really great kind of liberal arts preparation for that. And then Italian, I think is perhaps the least obvious career path [00:19:00] there.

But I think that having a second language is going to be value that Bible, no matter what career you go into, it’s again, the cultural awareness it gives you is just so important. So if you want to be a diplomat one day, you want to work international relations at any sense in business and any sort of trading with stocks, knowing ache culture very well and in a country very well in terms of what’s going on there politically is very helpful.

So I think that those can all kind of lead to pathways, um, in those areas. So it’s all I have for now. I’m happy to answer questions later. I’m not pass it off to the next presenter. Wow. Excellent. That was, that was great immensely. Um, I love how you just went into detail into each and every single one of your majors.

Um, so hello everyone. I’m Lisa. I graduated from a small liberal arts college called Occidental college, otherwise known as Oxy. You might’ve heard of it before because, um, Former president Obama actually attended Oxy for a couple of years. Um, and yeah, it’s a, it’s a great school. I highly recommend you all to [00:20:00] check it out if you’ve never heard of it before.

Um, so a little bit about Occidental college. It’s a pretty typical liberal arts college in the sense that, you know, there’s only about 2000 students in the entire school. It’s undergrads only. So we don’t have any graduate schools. It’s a very small, intimate environment where students really get to know each other.

And we really pride ourselves on being in a small community where we really support each other and we collaborate with each other. Um, it’s located in the middle of Los Angeles. So we like to say that we’re a small school in a big city. So we have that intimacy, that connection that you can easily find on a small campus at the same time, being in such a large urban city, we have all the resources that there are.

Any typical metropolitan city. Um, so oftentimes our classes, we get to go out to Los Angeles, various pockets of it, um, to explore the city and all it has to offer from the sciences to the arts, to culture, things like that. Um, so it’s a really, uh, rich and diverse place, um, that I really [00:21:00] enjoyed. So a little bit about my major.

You probably haven’t met many folks who have majored in religious studies before. And a lot of people ask me when they say, oh, what exactly to study, or, you know, what do people end up doing when they study religious studies? Um, a lot of people think that religious studies is just about learning about different religions and like comparing them with each other, learning the differences, which I would say.

Yes, there is some degree to that, right. There might be an intro to Islam course that you can take. And you understand a little bit about the foundations, the theology, the history of it. Um, but more broadly, I would say that it is impossible to learn all the religions, all the different movements and spiritualities that exist in this world.

So rather than understanding it as, um, really learning about distinct religions, it’s more about understanding what is religion and what is spirituality, um, and understanding it through various academic disciplines. So it’s a very, very interdisciplinary. So you can study religion through obviously, um, [00:22:00] historically you can study it economically sociologically, theologically, philosophically.

So it’s a really, really, um, flexible major in the sense that, uh, you’re all studying religion, but you’re all kind of looking at it through various lenses. And obviously every faculty has their own specialty. They might be focused on a particular religion or focus on a religion that’s developed in a very particular area in a very particular part of the world.

Um, so that’s what makes it so exciting too, is there really is so much that you can learn to religious studies and you can really pick and choose what aspect of it you are most interested in delving into. Um, so for me, I didn’t always know that I want to study religious studies. Um, I personally grew up in a very conservative, uh, Protestant evangelical Christian family.

Um, My whole life. I had learned about religion through a very singular perspective that is through the church. Right. And so you really understand Christianity through, uh, what it says in the [00:23:00] Bible or how the pastor interprets it for you and, you know, through youth group or things like that. So when I got to Oxy and I saw there is.

History of early Christianity course. I’m like, let me take this course. Uh, I took it and it just opened up my world. It really just opened up something that I thought I knew a lot about, but I really don’t know much about, so you really get to learn about like, um, you really get to know. See religion, um, faith and spirituality in a completely different lens, understanding it from an academic perspective and really dissecting it and using various theories to, um, really understand like what is religion and how can we understand why we treat religion as we do in our current society and why we have certain prejudices or house religion impacts art societies, because whether you’re religious or not, we cannot deny that religion plays a big role in all societies.

Right? So it’s just a very fascinating way for me to just kind of like, uh, [00:24:00] really understand the world and understand people ultimately. Um, so for me, it really is making something personal scholarly and intellectual, but I took a lot of different classes at Oxy. I’ve taken classes in the sciences, I’ve taken sociology classes.

I was a sociology major. Um, I’ve taken classes in the arts and writing in cognitive science, et cetera. And I loved all of them, but ultimately I really want to echo what Ainslie was saying. Like what is something that you really want to, um, you know, fight for? What is something that you’re willing to put in the work for?

Uh, what is something that you constantly feel yourself drawn, drawn towards? And for me that was definitely religious studies. Um, and I felt like every single time, whenever I see. The classes being published. I was just automatically drawn. I want to take every single one of them. So that’s really how I settled on religious studies.

There was no strategy to it. There was no, I am going to be X, Y, and Z. So I’m studying this major. I really just followed what my heart told me. Um, and I [00:25:00] really just followed whatever it felt right to me at the moment, rather than thinking about, you know, what exactly I was going to do, um, after graduation.

And so the interdisciplinary and multi-faceted nature of religious studies really allowed me to both study religion specifically, but also get to learn a little bit about other fields. And ultimately I decided to focus on the sociology of religion. So really understanding, you know, how do certain movements form and what are some of the historical factors or, you know, what were some of the trends at the, at the time, or, you know, what are various things that kind of led to the creation of various movements?

And I was able to do research on. The charismatic movement in the 1960s and seventies and understanding how it was really a progression from various, uh, various historical events. And I won’t go into detail into that. And I was able to also do research into Asian-American college students who are involved in, um, Christian campus ministries during my senior year.

Um, so it was very, very [00:26:00] fascinating and I was able to really challenge myself in terms of, uh, understanding different research methodologies, and really do it myself. Um, another reason why I ultimately settled on religious studies was the department ended up itself. Very, I mean is small to begin with, but really our major was really, really small.

Um, so I think my year we had maybe only a handful of religious studies majors, and there’s also only a handful of religious studies faculty at Oxy, which means I, it ends up being very small and intimate. And I really loved that because it allowed for deep fruitful and lasting relationships between the faculty and the students and between me and other religious studies majors.

And so to this day, I am still in very close contact with my professors and, um, the staff at Oxy and I have graduated, it’s been six years since I graduated. So, um, yeah, I, I just really love how, uh, the curriculum of the, of the department and. The, the composition of it. So that’s how I [00:27:00] ultimately settled on it.

Um, so really, if I wanted to kind of like sum up what religious studies is all about, it’s really, I like what my, my friend, uh, told me. I was talking to her. We were religious studies majors together. It’s the ultimate people major in the sense that you really learn, like what motivates people, what drives people on a very deeply spiritual of course, and very intimate level.

And you try to think about when, if you want to go to the practical level, um, you think about how to organize, how to make space for that community. And how do you learn to meet people where they are, and you learn how to understand people, how to empathize with people and how do you, um, try to grapple with all these diverse perspectives and ultimately get people together perhaps in a diverse way.

So, um, That’s kind of the practical application of religious studies besides obviously going into academia and really understanding and, uh, researching religious studies. Um, so yeah, it’s a little [00:28:00] bit about my background and in terms of the career opportunities that a major like mine offers, uh, definitely echo what McKinsey and Aynsley were saying.

I think the humanities is all about giving you those, uh, broad, soft skills that are so, so, so foundational, I would say that. Yes, there are hard skills that might be very, very valuable in the eyes of an employer, but really, I think college is a perfect time to really slowly develop these foundational soft skills that you would not have the time or the bandwidth, honestly, to develop in any part of your lives as the one who has been working.

Full-time like, I really appreciate having gotten my critical thinking skills, my clear communication skills, um, my clear writing skills, my people stills, right? Learning how to discuss and debate and how to synthesize various perspectives, learning how to like read difficult texts and like sort through it and be able to come up with clear analysis about things.

[00:29:00] These are things that take time to develop. You will not be able to learn it just from like a single internship or from a job. Right? These are things that. Take time to cultivate over the course of your college career. And the humanities does an incredible job of doing that. Um, and so I think college is really the time to set that foundation.

I think humanities majors or those who take humanities courses really have that benefit of building that soft skills that ultimately so applicable to anyone. So if you look at people, um, in C-suite right, CEO, CFO, those level of folks, they’re not really concerned about XL, right? They’re not really concerned about, you know, what certificates they got because.

The people who work for them have those skills. And they’re just telling those people to do it. They make that they, they will get someone to do that, to make that magic happen for them. But what ultimately makes them the CEO is, you know, the soft skills, the critical thinking skills or problem solving skills.

And these are great, uh, foundations that the [00:30:00] human humanities courses offer. And I can’t name a specific, uh, study, but I’m sure there are studies out there that show, you know, the vast majority of CEOs actually graduated, made it from an atypical major or like a humanities related major, or like they, they had a creative writing, um, Bachelor’s or something like that.

So really thinking about, you know, what got them, ultimately, they’re, I’m sure their highest heard their higher education that really set a huge foundation. So, um, I don’t want to sound like a broken record and repeat what everyone’s saying, but definitely the sky’s the limit and it just depends on what you want to do with your major and how you really apply it.

And what types of opportunities you take advantage of outside of your classes? Uh, what extracurriculars are you doing? What internships are you doing? Uh, what circles are you involving yourselves in? And ultimately, you know, you will start to see the different types of career paths that exists out there.

So yeah, if you want to continue with religious studies, the traditional round spark [00:31:00] to become a professor to do research, of course, faith-based vocations, clergyman, chaplains, pastors. You know, things like that. That’s very typical. Um, in a lot of people end up getting what we call an M D a master’s in divinity for their masters, or they get their master’s in theological studies, MTS.

They get their PhD in religious studies. Um, and these are masters that are offered in top universities. So did you know that Harvard has a divinity school, same this Yale, same with Yale and Princeton university of Chicago. Right? A lot of these schools, uh, the divinity state, the divinity schools date back as far as the founding of the schools, right?

So there are, there’s a lot of rich history. There. There’s a lot of, um, amazing resources that can be drawn from the schools that is all focused on religion. But at the same time, you don’t have to be religious or identify as spiritual to pursue religious studies as a major. Um, there’s something called secular ministry that a lot of people are going into.

Again, like I said before, it’s a lot [00:32:00] about community organizing, getting people into the same space, you know, converting people, meeting people where they are. If you really want to continue on the path of religious studies, but, you know, I know folks who were pre-med end up being doctors pre-law end up being lawyers or going into a law related path, because they were able to utilize that foundational, uh, skills that they got from religious studies, critical thinking, clear communication, et cetera.

Uh, so it’s, it there’s really a lot to do. And for me, um, I decided to go into higher education because I loved my experience in my, in my college and in my university. Um, so I wanted to, you know, get that specific skillset in higher education specifically, which is why I ended up getting my master’s in higher education.

But absolutely, I would say that the skills that I gained from my undergrad helps me tremendously in my master’s and my professors could definitely tell. Um, and it’s still continuing to benefit me in my current job. Um, so yeah, that’s a little [00:33:00] bit about me and I hope that was helpful and enlightening to everyone.

Yes. So now we’re going to do another quick poll. So where are you in the application process? Hadn’t started, I’m researching schools. I’m getting my essays together. I’m getting my application materials together, or if you’re really lucky, I’m almost done. And while we wait for those to roll in, I can either of y’all, um, touch briefly on, um, how you go about helping your students find these programs.

Their interests are a little bit about your advising style related to finding a good program.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I think the biggest thing is, again, just kind of helping my students kind of get on that pathway of self reflection. Right. Having those discussions. What do you really love to do in your free time? You know, looking at their activity, they’ve done in high school and saying, what are these, do you, uh, what are these?

Could you leave? You know, what are, these are the ones, what’s the one thing here that you just adore and why do you adore it? You know, and really having conversations and helping them, not only to [00:34:00] understand what they love, but also what’s out there. I think at high school, I was not aware of just the vast array of majors that are out there.

I didn’t know that religious studies existed. I didn’t know that you couldn’t major in the language, um, in high school. Um, and so I think just putting that out there that these programs exist, you know, which schools they’re at, that there are just ways to explore these things. It’s just so important. So showing them the opportunities, showing them what they, you know, helping them figure out what they like.

Bridging that gap and connecting them to those, to those colleges that give them that opportunity to explore. Definitely. I think for me, it’s, um, I really love, I’m going to talk about one student in particular. She’s interested in becoming a lawyer and going into social justice work. Um, but she’s also interested in dance and she was wondering how she could even combine the two.

She didn’t think it was possible. I really love, um, when people have creative or interesting things that they want to do, but they don’t think it exists. So really being able to help them to show them how it can exist. Like she can be a dance [00:35:00] major on a pre-law track. It’s really just about the courses she takes and how she goes about it.

And that could be an interesting presentation, um, for applying to. How, um, dance and movement helps with body language and presentation in the courtroom, essentially. Um, and just finding those different connections because especially for people our age and younger, um, there are jobs that are created or going to be created that don’t exist yet.

So really being creative. And what’s your, uh, our opening needing having an open mind to what you think is possible and figuring out how to get there is really what’s fun. Yeah, I think for me echoing, what both of, you said a lot of reflection, a lot of encouragement. I think a lot of the students that I work with often underestimate themselves.

They think they’re an average student. They feel like they haven’t done much when actually they have already done a lot. Throughout their years of high [00:36:00] school. So it’s all about encouraging them to, so for me, I like to kind of reframe their experiences through my perspective. And just by hearing me talk about what I see based on their list of extracurriculars or what I hear from them, from whatever they say, like, oh, you know, I just, you know, I just volunteer a couple hours, you know, every Saturday with my dad and we pick up leftover food from this grocery store, I encourage them to like dig deeply into that and be like, you did this for every single Saturday for a couple of hours for, you know, years.

Think about how many hours that total two. Right. I think about how many pounds of food you actually carried with your dad and like how many people that served and they really reflect and think about, oh, wow. Yeah. Did a lot, um, it’s not like my, the things that I did it wasn’t just, you know, insignificant and perhaps I did make a bigger impact.

So I really enjoy that part in terms of understanding that you don’t need to be, you know, the [00:37:00] next Olympic star to be able to go to college. Um, there are so many ways that I think every single student is already working on themselves, whether they’re doing that or not, whether they realize they’re doing that or not.

Um, and I love just kind of encouraging that and bringing that out of them so that they really see, you know, what their journey has been so far and then really communicating that as authentically as possible through their application. Yeah. So it’s looking like 44% of the audience haven’t started in 56% are research researching school.

So this is a great place to be really figuring out where you want to go. What’s, um, programs you want to do what you may be interested in majoring, and this is a very great place to be. And please make sure to submit your questions in the Q and a tab so that, um, you can get those thoughts and ideas that you have addressed.

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Okay. So now. Started, um, we’ll start off with a, kind of a broad question, but what is good advice for students who are looking to study humanities yet are discouraged by the lack of humanity center jobs.

I would say first and foremost, uh, how do you define a humanity centered job? I think, um, you know, almost every single career out there deals with people, deals with individuals, um, whether directly or indirectly. Um, so, you know, it may not be the case that you’re ultimately in a job where you are directly dealing with [00:39:00] people, or you’re not like studying the humanities as a scholar or an academic, but there are definitely skills that you can take away from studying the humanities that are very applicable to any career.

And so I think, um, it’s not so much thinking about it as like lack of humanity center job. It’s really understanding, you know, what are the options out there? And I love what McKenziewas saying that a lot of the. That will be, you know, there’s a lot of jobs that’s going to be created that we can’t even imagine right now.

Right. And so it’s not about preparing ourselves to, uh, work for, it’s not about like preparing yourself to work for necessarily like right now, or the past 10 years or the jobs that has existed in the past 10 years, but it’s actually like preparing for the unknown, which yeah, it can be scary, but there’s also a lot of excitement.

There’s a lot of possibilities in that. So I think it’s, it’s all about kind of like reframing it and just exploring what’s out there and then seeing, you know, what are the skills I’m developing right now that I really [00:40:00] enjoy and seeing how you can apply that to a particular career that you might be interested in.

And, um, I know that’s not like very specific, but I would really encourage anyone going into college to explore the career center, talk to lots of different people, understand just what types of career fields might be out there. And then you will see, oh, actually, you know, Seem like an explicit humanities related job, but there’s a lot of skills, a lot of knowledge that I can actually apply to all these various careers.

Yeah. I would think that’s so, so true. Um, I think it was said is just so accurate. And I echo all of that and I would also say that I think you, if you major in something, you’re gonna talk a lot to professors. You’re going to get a lot of insight into careers that you probably didn’t know existed until you get to that major.

Right on, you know, I’m their design major. I knew that someone planned our cities, but I didn’t know how that worked. Um, and there are, you know, people who are different, who inherited aspects of that. There are government officials, there are private firms. Um, there are companies that work with firms in England to do what they do.[00:41:00]

There are policy writers. There are so many subfields within urban design, which is already a sub field of like city planning. And so I think when you get to college, if you know, you have an interest, you’ll find new jobs that you didn’t even know existed. So again, you don’t even think about trying to fulfill a job because it said that, you know, like a doctor that’s just always there, but you will find jobs that also kind of come up as well.

Um, and then also, again, it, it was saying you can really apply humanities skills to a broad range of careers. Um, you know, I’m going to consulting, that’s a very typical business job this summer, but the research skills that I’ve gained. Have been helpful in the past and my work in this field, and I know we’ll be helpful and we’re definitely discussed by my interviewers as being very valuable.

So even if you aren’t doing something that is directly humanities, however you define that you can still use those skills in jobs that are non humanities jobs. Yes. And I just want to like echo what everyone has been saying. You don’t necessarily need to go into humanities job or, um, your major doesn’t even [00:42:00] need to be related to humanities to go into a humanities jobs.

It’s really just about what you make of your experience and definitely meeting people and talking to people can really help with exploring careers. I came across school counseling randomly in a yoga class, um, because the yogurt, the. Replaced not replacement. The substitute, um, professor for the yoga class just happened to be a school counselor and we started talking and that’s how I ended up switching into that career path.

So that was just a random way to end up in a different career. So it really is about just taking on different experiences and opportunities to really figure out what you want to be interested in. And you never have to do just one thing like Ainsley is majoring in three different things. I have multiple minors.

Um, Lisa has multiple different career paths, religious studies and education. Uh, and then I have a million different crews I want to do. So it’s really just do what you want to do it, even if it changes. [00:43:00] So it’s looking like the, uh, there is a question in the chat. So the student is asking with summer coming up.

Are there any opportunities in the humanities for high schoolers, like programs, classes, internships, or volunteer?

Yeah, that’s a really great question. Um, I would say it’s, if you’re thinking about pursuing the humanities, uh, as a major in college, Thinking about college applications, right. Um, you know, what are folks, what are the college admissions officers going to S one of the first things that they’re going to see, they’re going to look at the classes that you take, right?

And they’re gonna look at how well you did in those classes. And. Students think, you know, oh, summer school’s out. I’m not going to be taking any classes. I’ll be taking some humanities related courses next year, but not right now, but actually like one of the biggest things that I’ve been encouraging students to look into is dual enrollments in their community college classes, uh, their local community [00:44:00] college.

So, um, you know, look into your local community college and see if they still might be open to having anyone enroll. You don’t have to be, you know, a full-time student at that community college to attend those classes, community college, like it’s for the community. Right? So you might be surprised to see how diverse your classes.

It might be someone who has a full-time job who is taking this class. They’re interested in it. And it’s just something to fill their time. There might be someone who is a fully enrolled full-time enrolled student in your class. There might be other high schoolers like you who’s taking that class. So really encouraged you to kind of look at the courses, offered at your local community college, do well, get that credit.

Right. And it really shows a lot, um, when you include that in your college application, because it shows that you’re going above and beyond to take those classes are typically not offered. Cool or a typical high school. And it really gets to show that you are stepping outside of your comfort zone and really pursuing things that’s related to [00:45:00] something that you might be interested in.

So I think taking classes is always something that is, I would say, like easily accessible to most people, as opposed to maybe like looking for particular activities or programs that could be costly or like really dependent on like who, you know, so I think that’s one place that I would start is like academically looking at those, those classes.

Yeah. And as someone who did, basically my last years of high school, fully dual enrollment, I want to echo that for sure. Um, there are also a lot of state programs in most states that will pay for you. So I didn’t pay a single dollar for any of my, like almost two years of classes. Um, so I would look into that, cause I know again, cost can be an issue here and so you can get the government to pay for your classes.

I think that’s even even better. Um, but I do think that the value of doing a community college or someplace that you can actually enroll in your local state university. So depending on where you live, you might be near a bigger school. Yeah, a state school I could enroll in as well, but you can really get access to classes that are beyond what your high school offer you.

I took ethics in high school. I took classical literature. [00:46:00] Um, I took comparative politics. These are classes that are typically not offered at a high school. And so again, if you are thinking that you want to go a certain direction, it is a great way for you to not only show that you’re interested in it on a college application, but show that you explore different pathways and you’ve come to a major or a path that you think is really in line with your interests.

Um, and again, chose initiative. And the final thing that I’ll say here as well, is that again, don’t write off things like reading on your own time. Um, highly recommend that if you like anthropology, go to the library, pickups, anthropology books, and read that. I mean, this might depend on how much you read, but I actually put reading books on my college applications.

I read about 200 in one year and that was a lot of time. And so again, that’s a very humanities sort of extracurricular, you know, that active learning, that active reading and thinking. And so if you do anything like that, if you watch a lot of videos on, you know, certain areas, things like that, those can be something that you talk about in your application as kind of self-directed learning on the human.[00:47:00]

Definitely. And, um, some different summer programs. You can try out if you’re a 10th grader, meaning you’re about to go into your junior year, you can sign up or apply for the thrive scholars program, which I am a part of. Um, they, to be completely Frank, the humanities side isn’t as strong as their stem focused.

Cause a lot of students do want to go into engineering and medicine, but they are starting to build their humanities, um, resources and supports. And they do have counselors dedicated to the humanity side, which I’m currently using. And then they also, um, have a very strong prelaw, um, program with a lot of connections to different law firms.

Um, so if that is something you’re interested in, try signing up for that. Um, another thing you can do is, um, joining IB. So I did not do dual enrollment, but I did do that international baccalaureate diploma program. Um, Which is offered at certain schools. Um, you should know if your school offers it because they’ll usually advertise it.

Um, it was very writing heavy. We [00:48:00] had essays for every class. I had to write a 10 page paper on math, um, which is the worst thing to ever do because it’s math. Um, but it definitely did help her, um, college and what I’m doing now, especially since a lot of my work is writing heavy and I do enjoy writing. So that was also.

You know, a benefit. Um, and then also I got to do different projects in that program, which is what leads me into my next point, try doing a passion project. So in high school or my senior year, I had to do a cast project. Um, and I chose to do mine on starting a college readiness club at my high school, which is what led me into this field and helped me to figure out my interest in education, even though I still applied pre-med.

Um, but it really did give me a chance to explore, figure out what I enjoyed doing. Figure out that I loved writing and editing and working with students and doing work in education and tackling education issues. And on that note, um, Just, um, I [00:49:00] think that the best way to go into, um, to find these opportunities is really to sign up for CollegeAdvisor because your advisor can really help you to find and research these opportunities that, that you, your interests, um, and your qualifications, as well as finding things that are affordable or even free.

Um, and they can really support you throughout this process to really navigate what your interests are and helping you to solidify, um, your college list, what programs you want to apply for what major you want to pick and really create. Application, that’s going to make you the strongest student really show your passion and interest in a program that will give you the best chances to definitely do go to our [email protected], um, where you’ll be able to sign up for a free consultation with us to figure out our different packages and plans and figure out how the match process goes.

And you can get all your questions answered there as well as our information on this screen. Um, so please do check that out for that additional [00:50:00] personalized support, because finding what your love is really a personal experience. So really having someone to support you through that can be very helpful.

Now back to the Q and a. So, uh, another student is asking if you don’t know exactly what you’re choosing for a major, since you’re only a sophomore, um, maybe psychology or sociology or neuroscience, what suggestions do you recommend, um, to hone my research skills, um, support I supporting teachers on their projects or elsewhere.

Um, would you, what would you recommend.

Wow. That is a very advanced question coming from a high school. Sophomore, I was not thinking about research as a high school sophomore. I was thinking about research as a college sophomore. Um, so that’s a really great question, especially if you’re just like interested in research broadly, but you don’t know exactly what fields you want to go into.

Um, first of foremost, I would say you have time. You don’t need to [00:51:00] necessarily like jump ahead and like, you know, do everything right now. I would say, you know, enjoy your classes right now. And like slowly discover what it is that you enjoy. And like, is there a particular topic that really fascinates you and then really delve into that?

Or, uh, does your class, you know, require you to do some sort of a research project, you know, really fully devoting yourself into that and really seeing like what aspect of this project are you really enjoying? And then see if like, if that’s something that you’re interested in. You know, I would say, I don’t know if this is a typical answer, but I would say actually like working at the library might actually be a good way for you to hone your research skills and like really understanding how like a library might be structured or how it might, uh, like all of the multiple ways that a library actually benefits people.

Not just in terms of like, oh, I want to read this fictional novel, but really understanding like all the various resources it might provide and like what a typical librarian does. Because if you think about it, a lot of researchers [00:52:00] go to library ans uh, to find sources to understand like what part of the library, like physically or digitally, they have to understand.

And, you know, going through. Uh, various research platforms and understanding how those work, I would say like, think about if you can reach out to your local library or school library or see if they’re like possibly, um, you know, options at your local college community college and their library, and see if you can start to make that connection and see if that’s like one that’s one way to really like hone one aspect of your research skills.

Not necessarily understanding like, you know, the methodology or like your lab skills, but something that I think touches on every single field, no matter, um, what particular field that you are interested in is like going to the source of knowledge, right. Going to where all the knowledge is really being stored.

So that’s one, one way that I would really think about. Yeah, I agree. I think that you don’t need to worry about this right now as a sophomore in high [00:53:00] school. I certainly wasn’t, but. Two things that I would recommend would first be looking at again, courses. So I think, I think there’s an AP research class that you can take.

So if your school offers that class, that might be a really great way to build those research skills. Um, again, IB, I know has a lot of research components, so that also might be a good option. And then if you are doing dual enrollment or things about starting it, a lot of college offers classes, offer classes on research skills.

Um, I know mine the semester offering one research writing, for example, then maybe you could take, um, to kind of get practicing. Writing with research or how to do research. Um, stats classes are also really valuable if you want to do any sort of human focus research on populations. Um, and in my major in sociology, they actually offer classes on how to do research.

Um, and so again, if you go to a community college or a state university has dual enroll. You can probably take that sort of class, um, without having prereq. So that might be an option for you. And then if you want to do more research with someone, um, at a community college again, or at a state university through dual enrollment, you could talk to your [00:54:00] professors if you do well in a class and ask them if they looking for any assistance.

Um, I do know some, some friends of mine who did that in high school, um, who were far more ahead than I was. Um, and they did do some research. I university as a high schooler. I don’t know how, you know, that will depend on where you live your time commitment. Um, you know, what sort of field you want to go into.

And if you find professors that have a need assistance, um, but you could also get, if you’re doing dual enrollment and look at it through that perspective and try to get those connections that you’re making with your professors, um, to possible research opportunity. Definitely. And I kind of want to expand this question and ask everyone, how did you prepare for applying for college and applying for a humanities major?

Were there certain activities you did in high school or anything that influenced you while you were in high school? Yeah, I can answer this. So in terms of my activities, I don’t think that many of them are very humanities focused. I think in my sense, the most manageable one I put on them was just reading like 200 books a year.

Um, but most of mine were more sports oriented, kind of [00:55:00] more basic, I guess, or more typical, um, non-human focused, um, extracurriculars, but in terms of preparation, I think what I did was just take so many classes, so many different fields to figure out what I wanted to do. So I hadn’t taken classes. You know, ethics on classical literature.

I knew after those, I didn’t want to do this where it’s humanities. I liked them, but they weren’t my passion. So I took classes on comparative politics has theology and psychology. It was able to figure out from there kind of what I want to do. And so when I was applying, I was writing these essays on, you know, why this major or why the school, I was able to talk about what I experienced in these different classes, what I loved about sociology and why I wanted to do that.

So I think again, Anyway, you can do that and be that through a class like I did through reading books on certain subjects, noticing that you really loved the books you’ve read on sociology. You know, you can take online class on Coursera that are free often, um, to kind of explore if you don’t have access to dual enrollment, for whatever reason.

I think things like that, just like trying it out is the best. To prepare, um, both for application strength, but also for you personally, to pick [00:56:00] a major, that’s going to be a good fit for you. I think for me, um, I, at my high school, they offered, um, career pathways. So my freshman year I took the, um, stem related one or engineering related one.

So I was learning different engineering skills when I was interested in architecture and civil engineering. And then I realized I really didn’t like physics. So then I took the education course and I really enjoyed that course. And then my psychology and gov course that I always loved my history and, um, history and English courses throughout high school.

And I also just loved the teachers of those courses. They were always the funniest. Um, so that really drew me into the humanities side though. I do still like math. Um, and then by the time I got. Senior year and junior year, I was in the IB program and doing the cast project really did help me to figure out that I was interested in education issues, even though I still ended up applying pre-med.

Um, and then in my application, I wrote about why I was [00:57:00] interested in the public health program, but I also, in my personal statement wrote about why I’m interested in education issues. So I was still talking about education, even though I didn’t initially go into it. Um, and I was still able to get into Cornell and Howard university.

Um, with that by just demonstrating my interest, what I’m committed to. And then, um, but really that passion project, um, helps to like solidify what I was really interested in because it realized it was something that I was always talking about. Something I always wanted to do something about with medicine.

It was, I always felt like, oh yeah, there there’s an issue there that needs to be fixed. But with education, I always felt like there’s an issue I’m going to fix that. I already know the solution. I already know what I want to do. So that’s what really drew me into switching my majors and focusing on what I want.

I was not that strategic back in high school. Y’all like, I literally did not know that I was even interested in the humanities. I didn’t know that I [00:58:00] was going to go into the humanities going into college. So I just wanted to like, assure those in the audience who may not know what they want to do. They don’t know what programs to do.

They don’t live there. Like, I don’t even know what I’m interested in. Like where do I start with programs? I would just say, keep doing whatever you’re doing right now. Enjoy those. Continue deeper in those maybe to take leadership opportunities and reflect, right? Like do that, um, you know, on your own and journal, if you want to sign up with CollegeAdvisor, like reflect with them and it will make sense.

Eventually it doesn’t have to make sense right now, but later on, if you go to college and you look back, you’ll be like, huh, I really enjoyed that club. And now I’m doing something that is, or I’m studying something that is kind of like related to that. So. I didn’t know what the hell I was doing in high school, but it all worked out.

So I just wanted to kind of assure that to everyone. Yes. So, um, we, the webinar is coming to a close, so we’ll have one final question and then we can have closing remarks. So the students asking, how did you land at [00:59:00] your specific college? What were the tipping points that influence your final decision?

Cause they all seem amazing. Um, I think I can start in this one. So with Cornell, um, like I said earlier, it was really just, um, all of the majors that the college of human cology offered and the fact that even the stem courses were very humanities space because I strongly just don’t like the natural sciences.

It’s always been quite boring to me. Um, but I really love writing and talking with people and understanding people, um, And then, so I just really enjoyed that aspect of it. And then also with the fashion design major and the design major and the policy major, it was really just about being able to explore every single thing I was interested in in terms of the humanities, um, in one place and the college of human ecology is what offered it.

Yeah. So for me, I think it was kind of against finding call to this, had everything that I was looking for, um, for, you know, my interest, right. So I knew I came [01:00:00] in knowing or applying, knowing that I want through sociology and that I had interest in Italian and urban design. And so when I found NYU and they had a super strong sociology program, the biggest department for time studies in the country and, and had a very unique urban design major, I knew that that was somewhere where even if I didn’t major in all three, I’d be able to explore all three and they have a language house that has an entire building just for the Italian department and tying cultural events.

They had that for. Seven other languages. So I found that new, they place a lot of importance on culture, awareness and languages. Um, I looked into the fact that study abroad is super, really, it’s just amazing NYU. It’s so easy to go abroad. Um, and I knew that as someone studying people, I, I wanted to go abroad and experience a new culture.

And I mean, I’m being in a city I’m around people, 24 7, really the best place to study sociology and urban design. And so that’s kind of what brought me to NYU, um, along with the fact that it is so easy to double major, double, minor, triple major, NYU, it’s so interdisciplinary. And so if you’re like me and you have one interest and you’re thinking maybe I want to do three different [01:01:00] things and I use a really great place.

So for me, I am an Asian American immigrant. So I’m the first one in my family. We’re not the first person to go to college, but I was definitely the first person in my family to go to a liberal arts college. And so, um, my family had no idea what a liberal arts college was like, if you guys don’t know what Oxy is, like, imagine what a bunch of Asian immigrants that had only immigrated recently to the U S were thinking, right?

And so I really didn’t know what I was stepping into, but what really sealed the deal for me was visiting the campus and really getting a sense of the environment and really picturing myself here. And for me, I felt like. Belonged better in a small intimate community where, um, I could be seen and I could be recognized by my peers, my professors, and I could be in a very nice collaborative environment where I’m also feeling challenged and I can really elevate my intellect and my scholarly pursuits, um, as opposed to like a large research university where there’s nothing wrong [01:02:00] with that.

I currently work for Penn, which is a very big university. Um, but you know, for my undergrad experience, I knew I kind of wanted that intimate environment while being in a larger city. So that’s how I ultimately chose Oxy. Definitely. And just kind of bouncing off both. If I would’ve known where Cornell was initially, I probably wouldn’t have applied just because it is on a farm, essentially.

Um, and I did think it was in actual New York city for a long time, but after visiting campus, it was very pretty, I really liked how secluded it was, you know, all the waterfalls. It’s very pretty. Um, and then also the college of human ecology has that small liberal arts feel because it is one of the smaller colleges on campus while I’m still at a big research university.

So it’s kind of the best of all the worlds. Um, except for the snow, the snow is just not okay. So yeah, so that is the end of our webinar. I hope you found this information helpful. And remember, again, you can download the slide from the link in the handouts tab. [01:03:00] And this webinar is being recorded. So you can view it again later on our [email protected]/webinars, where you can also sign up to, um, so thank you to our panelists and thank you everyone for coming out tonight.

Um, here’s the rest of our may series, where we’ll be talking about increasing your admissions, odds and different other components of the application process tomorrow, we’ll be having a webinar on liberal arts colleges, which may be interesting just because this is the humanities fantasy may be interested in that and we’ll have other webinars coming up, talking about other majors, other programs and things you can do to prepare for college.

So thank you everyone for coming out tonight and good night.